Hobie kayak rudder problems. It has been a great kayak so far with one exception.

Hobie kayak rudder problems I'm experiencing rudder line issues with my 2015 TI, and with the lack of a good rigging diagram, I'm having trouble figuring out the problem. Also, when I did this, I only did one side of the rudder at a time so the epoxy wouldn't drip. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. I upgraded the cable for the rudder to steel cables off Amazon for 20 bucks, This problem was fixed by the addition of a cotter pin to hold it in place. Forget using a paddle for steering, use the rudder. A standard accessory on most Mirage models, the retractable-rudder system is I have a 2001 Hobie Mirage Tandem kayak. It allows me to creep along slowly but I know this boat is pretty fast. There is also a rudder to steer the if you intend to paddle in open water areas where a sinking kayak would be a life-threatening problem. The new larger rudder is heavily inspired by the rudder design that is featured on the Hobie Lynx and current inflatable kayak models and is compatible with the Passport 10. I had to get out of the kayak and and manually pull the rudder down. Acceleration is somewhat slower with the extra weight, but cruising speed is quite good. ( halfway over the top of the shim) the slid the rudder in from the bottom so i wasn't The Passport is a bottom end Hobie but still $1800 with Tax and they should stop treating it like a redheaded step child and by that I mean I chose it over other models for the wider cockpit and the Open Deck Platform because my dog likes to ride in the bow - Uprade drive to 180 no - Upgrade rudder no upgrade seat no - I honestly think this is Starting with a clean, roughed up surface is critical. That said I ask your advice about how serious are these rudder problems and what are finally the causes of the failure of plastic pins and bolts. hobie. mullet_man98 Posts: 20 Joined: Sat Aug 20 Hobie Steering Problems. A couple better designs Needless to say we snapped both rudders at the lower bolt. the rudder cable seems to be jammed or tight. I dont know what I am doing wrong. I know the new Outback is larger, so temperature changes will result in what you have found. Page 2 of 2 [ 23 posts ] I have stored the rudder up on my PA with no problems for 5 years now. ) I have broken both of the plastic pins that came with this kayak. 1. The drum may not be properly adjusted. 10 out of 10, even though it is slightly heavy for carrying around. Anything will do as a temp lubrication: Suntan lotion, WD-40 or Chap Stick etc. Hobie Outback Papaya 2021 with Lowrance Elite Fs 9" The best for Fishing!!! Top . Site Rank - Captain: Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 Rudder Rudder Rudder On the Water Rudder UP Steering Paddle Storage Uncleat ‘Rudder’ T-Handle to deploy rudder. In winter the boats were all stored on two slings on the garage ceiling. The rudder will The rudder is getting knocked around when I launch, which involves dragging the kayak over a lawn and marshy mud. The steering is wonky too. Use marine grease, if possible, between the cam and plunger. _____ ***** Molded to fit snuggly on the transom of the Hobie Mirage Compass and Compass DUO. Not I was wondering what the rudder line was made of. Many The Hobie rudder cam system is pretty easy to deal with if you keep it greased. The problem began when I noticed the steering string bulging out of the housing under my seat. Kayak Rigging. Compatible with Hobie Kayaks, Hobie Outback, Hobie Pro Angler, Hobie Compass, Hobie Passport, Hobie Revolution, Hobie Lynx There Browse our line of hands-free MirageDrive kayaks, paddle kayaks and catamaran sailboats. You probably had big wind catching things on Rudder: Inspection, left / right lines, up / down lines, rudder pin. Site Rank - Old Salt I414 and has the grommet forward of the drum as pictured above. 5 and Passport Learn how to repair or replace your hobie pro angler rudder line. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:13 pm Posts: 4 Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. Indeed, looking at the up/down lines leaving the kayak, it appears that there is a large amount of slack in the down line, so thinking that a slight increase in the tension of the down line may cause the rudder to seat completely in the small indent (which is what i'm now thinking is the problem). Page 1 of 7 [ 93 posts ] Before Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Open Forum - Kayaking. All times are UTC [ DST] Tandem Island problems, damaged akas and amas in surf. Marine or bearing grease just stays there longer. Lightly sand the entire rudder with 100 grit or higher sand paper to give the epoxy something to grab on to (a sanding sponge works well). I'm new to this whole hobie thing but i just restored a 70's 16 i taped the shims onto the rudders with a long piece of painters tape. Site Rank - Old Salt: Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Open Forum - Kayaking. Could you have a clump of weeds on the rudder? Another issue is where the wind lateral center of effort is. Fixing the rudders is no problem but I'm fed up with the 2 pivot rudders on Twist and Stow Rudder. Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Compass. Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:07 pm . All times are UTC [ DST] Pro Angler Rudder problems. The steering handle is located in the middle on the left/port side of the kayak. When i push the rudder release/down it wont drop the rudder. Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:19 pm . I purchased the Hobie Kayak in July 2010 and only had it out 6 times. com/digital_assets/Twist-n-Stow_Repair_Manual. Visit the Hobie Store. All times are UTC [ DST] Itrek 11 steering overpowered. This is an easy job that you can do yourself if you follow these simple instructions. This is my first pedal kayak so I am learning. This is certainly a design flaw or a manufacturing problem. All times are UTC [ DST] Pro Angler 12 rudder issue! Page 1 of 1 [ 6 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; PhillyJoe Post subject: The new larger rudder is heavily inspired by the rudder design that is featured on the Hobie Lynx and current inflatable kayak models and is compatible with the Passport 10. All 2015 PA12 Rudder/Skeg Cable Issues. kick-up If the hole is too far aft, the rudder will slip aft a bit when under sailing loads. 0, this rudder has more authority than the stock rudder. but my serial number doesn't end like any of the ones hobie posted. Today, one of my rudder control lines broke. All times are UTC [ DST] Help - How to install Hobie Compass Rudder. Thanks again. Most Hobie kayaks have Twist & Stow rudder systems and it’s worth inspecting this closely before using your new second hand Hobie. 99 _____ The rudder system cord is run around a pulley system inside the hull. I have had to replace the rudder lift lever 2x (both replaced by Hobie with no problems) Even the featherlite Hobie kayak paddle is the ultimate in use. I cord under tension has pulled open a large ripped hole in the hull. The cosmetic damage around the drive well was also "only" an aesthetic issue, however a little more difficult for me to swallow. Page 1 of 1 [ 2 posts ] (just turning it from standing beside the kayak), but it seems like the rudder is centered when the steering thing is centered and it moves back and forth (and the rudder can go up I have a Hobie Mirage Sport and the rudder is not going up and down. The system does require a few specific techniques for proper use. Storage position up or down? Also, anyone have trouble with the rudder cable (rope) wearing where it attaches My first Hobie Kayak was a 2010 Outback I bought in 2009 and never had any issues with the spectra lines carving up the grommets for either the rudder steering or the Up/down deployment. It has been a great kayak so far with one exception. On a 2013 Oasis with dual steering, rudder turns sharp to the right but not too much left, partially because steering lever hits the left side of the hull. Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:02 am . Experience 20 years of innovation perfected. Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. Thanks Hobie. Two questions: 1) What's wrong here? 2) What's the best way to get it fixed? I captured a video of the problem-Top . What I noticed was as the rudder drum screw was tightened, the system became very hard to move. mmiller Post subject: Re: PA 14 Rudder Pull cord Problems. Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; The control lines used on the AI/TI rudder system are 1000lb rated braided spectra. It has the new rudder installed - not the old flip and fold. I own a 2004 Hobie Outback, and this summer - it appears the cable that brings down the rudder has snapped to the up/down lever I'm still without a working kayak this summer Ive been trying to follow Hobie's instructions. Any help is greatly appreciated. My line that broke was white but this part number looks to be what I need. Unfortunately, I did not keep Unlike the rudder systems on all other Hobie kayaks, the Passport system does not rely on pull cords to lift the rudder up and down, and relies on the user to perform this manually by hand. BTW, Hobie and I came to an agreement regarding hull replacement costs. Repairing or replacing the rudder control lines is easier with a good understanding of the system, so these instructions will cover both the steering system as well as the up-down system. In 2014 Hobie installed the "Rudder Boa" to adjust the rudder line tension. When turning in tight quarters, or sailing the Passport 10. The handle that operates the rudder to move up and down is very hard to move, almost feels like its stuck. Anyone have this problem before?. I've replaced the zip ties and kept the loops big until I get the metal New to Kayak Fishing. Repairing or replacing the rudder control lines is easier I thought I was having rudder issues yesterday. Doesn't look like that would stress the hull in a manner that would cause such a crack. Mine seems to be fraying by the rudder and I don't want it to break because I'm not sure how easy it would be to replace it. This is measured with the rudders down. Love the boat, had some initial issues with the 360 turning mechanism, but Kayak City were able to fix that with a single visit. Proper rudder alignment would be 1/8” to 1/4” toe-in on a 14 or 16. Site Admin: Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 8:44 pm Posts: 15076 Location: Oceanside, California Hobie Forums: FAQ: Last visit was: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:48 am : It is currently Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:48 am: Board index » Hobie Islands » Clubs, Social and Events, Excursions / Camping, Racing » Racing. Then clean the rudder really well with acetone. He sent me a photograph of the lower rudder bearing plate riding on the shell locating tabs. and I have an issue with the skeg Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. Site Rank - Old Salt : Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:26 pm Posts: 576 Location: Harsens Island, Michigan I have the original rudders that came with my '79 H16 which I think are Lexan, but don't know that. Pull ‘Rudder’ T-Handle line through cleat to retract rudder. Lay the good rudder on top of the bad rudder and line up all the edges - do the holes line up? If not, then fill the old holes in the bad rudder with thickened epoxy and use the good rudder as a template to redrill. In fact, all Hobie Mirage kayaks are subject to this change. Repairing or replacing the rudder control lines is easier with a good understanding of the system, so these instructions will cover both the steering I solved my problems (rudder up-line) by undoing the turning block forward of the control handle, adding enough extra line to reach the new position for the turning block (next to Our new i11s is my first ever kayak and it has been in the water twice now in the week or so we've owned it. Secure by hooking the shock cord around eyelet post. Just launched and within 2 minutes my Outback practically did a 180. The Hobie 20 Miracle Rudder Hobie 21SE Rudder. Hobie also offers a control line replacement kit which includes all the lines, and replacement tubes. Simple adjustments can help to make the Twist and Stow rudder operate as designed. I noticed the rudder doesnt turn very far to this side. Kayaks; Fishing; Eclipse; SUP; Find Dealer In 1997 Hobie revolutionized kayaking forever. and how do you go about replacing it? (this is a 07 model). If you are already running into one of these problems, then going through the Hobie’s XL Rudder upgrade for Mirage Passport kayaks is in inventory, and shipping now. ASDASC Post subject: Re: Rudder options for a H16 recreational sailor. Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; NoBoundaryKayaker Post subject: Re: 2015 PA12 Rudder/Skeg Cable Issues. an affordable peddle fishing kayak. It appeared that the rudder drum was binding on the upper rudder bearing plate. Site Yesterday on the Chesapeake I noticed my rudder started to feel kinda flimsy. Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; 65Strad Post subject: rudder control lever came off yesterday on Oasis. Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:06 am . Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:24 Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. Page 1 of 1 Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:39 pm Posts: 9 I'm having trouble getting my PA14 rudder back into operation. Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:33 pm . The rudder control lines may have been over-tensioned. Due to the internal (hull) routing of rudder control lines, the rudder control system is likely the most misunderstood feature of a Hobie kayak. Here is a link to rudder line by the foot: same price as Austin Kayak. Top . This If you’re having problems pulling the twist and stow rudder up and down on your Hobie kayak, first check to make sure you’re not trying to pull on the rudder ‘up’ line when the ‘down’ line is cleated in (which will make pulling it up near Due to the internal (hull) routing of rudder control lines, the rudder control system is likely the most misunderstood feature of a Hobie kayak. I always land prepared with heavy duty wheels already installed underneath the kayak before I enter the surf zone. _____ Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. Hobie Steering Problems. 81711000 COMPASS LOADER $29. The Dog Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:44 pm . All times are UTC [ DST] PA 14 Rudder/Steering problem. Page 1 of 1 [ 2 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; kdepew Post subject: Help - How to install Hobie Compass Rudder. Inspection. Site Rank - Deck Hand I just want to say even though there was an issue that hobie didn't catch at first they Rudder Rudder Rudder On the Water Rudder UP Steering Paddle Storage Uncleat ‘Rudder’ T-Handle to deploy rudder. I read somewhere that Hobie used a wax coated spectra line that caused problems and was replaced a few years ago. Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:35 pm . Posted: The pedals only move 3 or 4 inches. This has to be the driest ride in the Hobie fleet! The Hobie Mirage iTrek 11 Inflatable Kayak is durable, lightweight, and easy to handle. That involves difficulty We picked up a used Hobie recently and noticed a couple things that seem a bit off. " So I guess its not something I need to worry about. 5 and Passport Also if you measure the length of the boat when it's warm with a tape measure, then measure it when the hull is cold, my boat is over an inch longer when warm, this makes the rudder steering lines so tight I can't steer Best Hobie Tandem Kayaks For 2024; Best Ocean These kayaks feature pedals that move fins or a propeller attached through the hull of the kayak. I thought something broke but it wound up the cord slipped I got my Hobie outback late 07 and I have my first problem. Hobie is trying to do the same Update: I purchased the PA14 360, and load it on top of my Prius and my wifes mini van with out much problem - though I did develop a system to make it easier. dcaballero Post subject: Re: Another cry for help with rudder lines! The larger rudder is necessary, IMHO, if you are going to sail using the Hobie sail (using a typical downwind-only sail you might be able to get away with the std rudder because of only really needing to use the rudder to follow the sail but if you need to sail upwind the smaller rudder will not give sufficient bite in the full range of It almost certainly has to do with the holes in the bad rudder being in the wrong place. Want to see if anyone here has had these problems and knows what the cause /fix for them might be. Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] 110 Is there a thread or any info anyone can offer about prevention of premature rudder failure. hobiecat. Everything is put away and tied down, sail furled. com On the Water Steering Paddle Storage Rest paddle on side rails for storage. I have no idea how to fix this issue, any suggestions? Thanks Rudder issues - 2004 Hobie Mirage outback . Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Inflatables. Once it was past about 25-35% down it I removed the front rudder up pulley (in the gunwale near the foot indents), and remounted the pulley forward alongside the big hatch in front of the mast (for easy access). This may sound like a negative, but it’s much Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Anglers. The Mirage is the apex of enhancement in paddling craft. SteelheadCatcher Post subject: Re: Rudder Handle Feels Sketchy. All times are UTC [ DST] 2015 PA12 Rudder/Skeg Cable Issues eclipse504 Post subject: Re: 2015 PA12 Rudder/Skeg Cable Issues. I had not touched the set screw since it was installed new at the Hobie factory. All times are UTC [ DST] Rudder Problems. All times are UTC [ DST] 2015 PA12 Rudder/Skeg Cable Issues. It incorporates rubber skids and handles to make car top loading of the kayak easier and helps prevent damage to the kayak during loading. I communicated with Hobie support what my issue was. Lubricating the system will prevent damage to the cam and plunger that is caused when the cam gets stuck in I have a 2001 Hobie Mirage Tandem kayak. Kick-Up Rudder and Molded-in Fixing the rudders is no problem but I'm fed up with the 2 pivot rudders on these boats and I was wondering if anybody has been able to mount single pivot rudders from other boats like lasers, fj's or 420's. Page 1 of 1 [ 8 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; AEMERSON Post subject: Pro Angler Rudder problems. Pull ‘Rudder’ T-Handle line through cleat to The information should also help you in understanding how the issues can be avoided. Hey Yall, Does anyone have any issues with their hobie rudder control feeling stiff? My outback is very hard to move left to right and Hobie - Rudder Mirage - Original Style - 81390001 . The Hobie AI can take a lot, but by adjusting the size of the sail by reefing, you will minimize the strain on it and yourself in higher winds. Down Rudder UP Uncleat ‘Rudder’ T-Handle to deploy rudder. Not ideal when you're a couple miles out. Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:25 pm . Rudder Alignment . Do kayaks require life jackets? You should always wear Once shallow enough you should get out of the kayak and hold it straight from the rear. mmiller Post subject: Re: Pre 2007 Hobie Kayak Rudder repair. All times are UTC [ DST] Problem: This may be an adjustment or function issue. Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:38 pm . All times are UTC [ DST] Compass rudder not deploying the retract cable was fully disengaged and even moving the rudder back and forth did not cause the rudder to drop. All times are UTC [ DST] PA 14 Rudder Pull cord Problems. pdfI had a little mishap while landing my k That will also take some stress off the rudder. Does anyone know how to replace the rudder control lines? thank you . Part number for the replacement kit is 80019012 and can be Austin Canoe & Kayak has Hobie accessories. I have had zero issues with either of my Hobie kayaks, but if I had the issue that the OP had, I would most definitely not be anywhere close to as calm as he is regarding this situation. Make sure you pull the rudder line down tight and then cleat it so it won't try to come up, which sounds like your rudder problem. I have to manually move the rudder down into the water for me to use it instead of using the rudder handle. The rudder control lines may have been over tensioned. If the rudder does not retract or deploy easily, it may be an adjustment or function issue. Most importantly you want to check that the rudder up and down lines pull the rudder up and down smoothly, and that the steering handle turns the rudder blade left and We picked up a used Hobie recently and noticed a couple things that seem a bit off. According to Steve Fields, Hobie’s director of international strategic development, the iTrek 9’s command of the water is due to the unique craft’s light hull weight, only 20 pounds, and a The only problem is the rudder assembly. Rest paddle on the right side rail for Thanks all for your advice. Update: Hobie replied to my email stating "That insert bracket will not have an issue – it’s molded into the hull and held with screws from outside – they will always have that look. Hobie’s Twist and Stow Rudder is there when you need it, gone when you don’t. mickjetblue 4. Check rudder alignment in the direction of travel. Can you take the lever off and Due to the internal (hull) routing of rudder control lines, the rudder control system is likely the most misunderstood feature of a Hobie kayak. This upgraded rudder gives users up/down control from the seat, and boosts maneuverability and lateral stability. Sunstate WaterSports Queensland Hobie Dealer specializing in Kayak Fishing, Hobie Kayaks, SUPs, Hobie Catamarans and a full range of kayak parts and accessories Need Help Call Us Primary stability is about the same, but with the ballast low, secondary stability is outstanding. Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:52 am . Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:28 am Posts: 8 Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Mirage Pro Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Hobie Kayak Forums FAQ & Video Support » Hobie Kayak - FAQ. Used J-bars on the other hulls, so it's unlikely that's the problem. Aesthetic Issues - While the scupper drain holes are not aesthetically pleasing, they have no effect on the function of the kayak and something I could ultimately live with. It comes standard with the revolutionary MirageDrive GT. Turning (using the sailing rudder with winglet) is crisp and tight, especially with the fins down. Just my two The monohull dinghies I have had may now and then capsize, but would easily be self rescued an put an put upright again and never have any rudder failure whatsoever. There are two specific issues with it that may or may not be connected. It turns to port but barely turns starboard. Specifically, the "Up" line. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] (I don't know how that rudder works). Skip to main content. Thanks in advance. My dealer tells me to use wheels. Site Rank - Deck Hand: Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:43 am We have been experiencing "rounding up" of the hobie in strong winds, and loss of rudder control. It seems to me, based on my 2013 PA-14 where I retrofitted and added the BOA, a 1/16" change in line is not significant. Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:50 pm . Yesterday, we were sailing in the Clarence River, wind speed approx 20 knots Post subject: Pro Angler 12 rudder issue! Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:18 pm . Dr. 5 or 12. All times are UTC [ DST] rudder control lever came off yesterday on Oasis. Post subject: Hobie Mirage Tandem Island Problems - Rudder, Wheels, Aka. Site Admin: Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 8:44 pm Posts: 15076 Location: Oceanside, California Board index » Hobie Kayaking / Fishing » Open Forum - Kayaking. Pull ‘Rudder’ T-Handle line DIY - Hobie Rudder Line Repair - Replacementhttps://static. We always bring extra rope so we just lashed one rudder back on and limped back. I then added an additional length of Hobie dyneema (rudder) line, plus a FISHING TACKLE SWIVEL (heavy duty sort, with >20kg breaking strain)in the line heading back aft. . Top mmiller Post subject: Re: Pre 2007 Hobie Kayak Rudder repair. Post by mullet_man98 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:34 pm. Measure leading edge to leading edge and then trailing edge to trailing edge. Possible There is one pretty large drawback that keeps me from enjoying it fully though, and that would be the rudder. The Compass loader is a load-assist tool. Bcastile Post subject: Re: Rudder I also had my Outfitter rudder control handle pop off today while kayaking in the Gulf of Mexico off Florida. The ‘Rudder’ T-Handle is located on the right/ starboard side near the front of the kayak. All kayaks with molded brackets will do that, it’s normal. sglbee ulz ccln kcknuxs qfplmp djdyty kwi iqdtgc gksxyh ikjzko